Pirates Parley
Pirates Parley
April 2, 2026·33:38

Anchor, Pinocchio, and the state of Solana open source

Leo from Blueshift breaks down the Anchor vs Pinocchio decision for Solana program development. When each framework makes sense, what the tradeoffs are, and what Pinocchio means for on-chain throughput and cost.

Plus the token standards landscape, client diversity with Firedancer, and the open source culture on Solana.

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Steve (Happy Pirate)

Anchor, Pinocchio, and the state of Solana open source

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