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Talking Tokens

Talking Tokens is a podcast focused on interviews with crypto leaders, startups, market participants, and up-and-coming founders changing the industry. Hosted by Jacquelyn Melinek, the show publishes on Tuesdays and Thursdays across YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, X, and more.

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Why R3 Chose Solana for the Next Chapter of Corda
34:04
October 20, 2026

Why R3 Chose Solana for the Next Chapter of Corda

In today's Solana Sessions episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Todd McDonald, co-founder of R3, to discuss how institutional blockchain has evolved over the past decade and why R3 is moving from private blockchain networks toward open markets, including building the next version of Corda as a protocol on Solana.  Todd explains why he believes all markets will eventually move onchain, what banks actually want from blockchain today, why R3 concluded that open networks win, and how tokenization can connect traditional assets with capital already living onchain. They also discuss why R3 chose Solana, what institutions care about when selecting blockchain infrastructure, and why fixed income and alternative assets could be among the next major markets for tokenization. Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:32 How Institutional Blockchain Has Changed 02:55 Why All Markets Will Move Onchain 04:08 Why Todd McDonald Started R3 06:25 Buying Bitcoin in the Early Days 07:37 How R3 Got Major Banks Onboard 09:56 What Crypto Gets Wrong About Banks 12:10 How Banks Are Using Blockchain Today 13:38 Why R3 Changed Its Strategy 14:00 Moving From Private to Open Networks 14:24 Why R3 Chose Solana 16:29 Bringing Corda to Solana 16:52 What Banks Care About in a Blockchain 18:18 What R3 Got Wrong 19:00 Lessons From R3's Early Network Strategy 20:05 Why Open Networks Win 22:05 What's Next for Banks Onchain 23:07 The Opportunity Beyond Tokenized Dollars 24:05 The Trillions in Tokenization 26:17 What Tokenization Actually Means 27:26 Bring the Assets to the Money 27:57 The State of Tokenization 28:57 What Has Changed in Five Years 30:12 What Banks Want From Tokenization 31:04 What's Next for Tokenization 31:59 Todd's Advice for Builders Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com  This episode is a part of the Solana Sessions campaign between Token Relations and the Talking Tokens podcast, diving into founders' journeys and startups building on Solana. Check out the accompanying newsletter on www.stratamedia.co/token-relations/solana  This episode is sponsored by Binance, the world’s number-one crypto exchange, trusted by over 300 million people. Discover more at: https://binance.onelink.me/y874/talkingtokens . NOTE: Binance is not available in certain countries, including the U.S.; check its Terms for more information: https://www.binance.com/en/terms  🔔 New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 🌐 Follow Jacquelyn Melinek https://x.com/jacqmelinek?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelynmelinek ➡️ Follow Todd McDonald https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddvmcdonald/?isSelfProfile=false #R3 #Solana #Tokenization #Corda #OnchainFinance

How Mantle Plans to Compete in the Tokenized Asset Market
17:45
October 16, 2026

How Mantle Plans to Compete in the Tokenized Asset Market

In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Josh Cheong, Head of Product and Growth at Mantle, to discuss the next phase of real-world asset (RWA) tokenization and why distribution is becoming as important as the technology behind it. Drawing on his experience at Citi and Parity Technologies, Joshua explains why tokenized equities are attracting attention, what banks and asset managers want from onchain finance, and how Mantle is approaching institutional adoption through partnerships and distribution. They also discuss the role of stablecoins in banking, how tokenization can expand access to financial markets, why tokenized real estate has struggled to gain comparable traction, and what it would take for RWAs to achieve mainstream institutional adoption. Timestamps  00:00 Introduction Joshua Cheong 00:36 The Current State of RWA Tokenization 01:28 Is the Infrastructure Phase Almost Over? 02:24 Why Distribution Is the Next Challenge 03:08 Bringing Institutional Assets Onchain 04:49 What Asset Managers Actually Need 05:08 Two Ways Tokenization Creates Value 06:05 Faster Settlement and Capital Efficiency 07:03 Lessons From Citi and Traditional Banking 08:51 Are Banks Finally Adopting Blockchain? 09:15 Why Stablecoins Matter to Banks 09:52 What's Slowing Institutional Adoption? 11:21 What Assets Are Worth Tokenizing? 11:50 Why Tokenized Equities Are Gaining Momentum 13:14 Who Will Win the Tokenization Market? 13:38 Why Distribution Matters More Than Ever 14:34 Mantle, Bybit and the Distribution Advantage 15:30 What Institutions Actually Want 16:32 Why Tokenized Real Estate Is Lagging 17:22 The Next Major Milestone for RWAs 🔔 New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 🌐 Follow Jacquelyn Melinek https://x.com/jacqmelinek?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelynmelinek ➡️  Follow Joshua Cheong https://sg.linkedin.com/in/joshuacheong https://x.com/joshuacheong #Mantle #RWA #Tokenization #TokenizedStocks #OnchainFinance

Why Canton Is Focused on Bringing 1% of Capital Markets Onchain
30:48
October 15, 2026

Why Canton Is Focused on Bringing 1% of Capital Markets Onchain

In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Yuval Rooz, co-founder and CEO of Digital Asset, the team building the Canton blockchain, to discuss what it will actually take to bring global capital markets onchain and why institutional blockchain infrastructure requires a fundamentally different approach.     Yuval explains why privacy is non-negotiable for institutional finance, why maximum decentralization isn't always the answer, and why many products called “tokenized equities” aren't actually tokenized equities. He also breaks down why moving just 1% of capital markets onchain would already represent enormous scale, which financial assets could get there first, and how blockchain could eventually make entirely new financial products economically viable. Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:14 Why Now Is the Moment for Onchain Capital Markets 02:34 Building Digital Asset 04:05 How Canton Differentiates Itself 04:56 Why Privacy Is Non-Negotiable 06:32 Why Institutions Need Privacy 09:21 Does Institutional Finance Need Decentralization? 10:31 Stablecoins and the Limits of Decentralization 12:04 How Canton Approaches Governance 13:44 What “Permissionless” Really Means 14:53 How Digital Asset Talks to Institutions 15:36 Selling Solutions, Not Blockchain 17:45 What Institutions Actually Want 18:43 Finding Blockchain Use Cases With Real ROI 21:14 Which Onchain Use Cases Are Working? 23:32 The State of Tokenization Today 24:12 Are Tokenized Equities Really Tokenized Equities? 25:36 How Early Is Onchain Finance? 26:54 What Will Make Tokenization Take Off? 27:22 Why 1% of Capital Markets Is Enough 28:31 Which Assets Will Move Onchain First? 29:10 What Finance Could Look Like in 5–10 Years 29:21 Driving the Cost of Financial Infrastructure Toward Zero 🔔 New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 🌐 Follow Jacquelyn Melinek https://x.com/jacqmelinek?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelynmelinek ➡️ Follow Yuval Rooz https://x.com/YuvalRooz https://www.linkedin.com/in/yuvalrooz This episode is sponsored by Securitize, the proven leader in tokenized funds, equities, and private markets. Discover more at securitize.io  #CantonNetwork #Tokenization #OnchainFinance #CapitalMarkets #RWA

Why Fomo Thinks Social Trading Is the Next Big Investing Shift
26:03
October 14, 2026

Why Fomo Thinks Social Trading Is the Next Big Investing Shift

In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Se Yong Park , co-founder of Fomo, a social-first trading app with about 3 million users, to discuss how social media, blockchain and changing consumer behavior are reshaping how people discover and invest in financial markets. Se breaks down why Fomo abstracts away wallets, gas, bridges and chains, how the platform is reaching users outside traditional crypto channels, and why social trading could become a much bigger part of investing. They also discuss bringing more assets onchain, tokenized equities, transparent trading activity, creator-driven market discovery and how younger investors are approaching financial markets differently. Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:33 How Fomo Reached Millions of Users 02:03 Why Se Yong Park  Built Fomo 03:11 Making Investing Easier to Understand 03:48 Making Trades Public 05:03 What 3 Million Users Reveal About New Investors 05:48 Reaching People Outside Crypto 06:45 Why Fomo Targets Instagram and Social Audiences 07:06 Making Crypto Infrastructure Invisible 08:33 What Fomo Got Wrong About Consumer Behavior 09:28 Is Social Trading the Future? 11:35 What's Next for Fomo 12:30 How Social Media Is Changing Market Discovery 13:51 What Fomo Has Learned From Trader Behavior 14:38 Educating and Rewarding Users 16:03 Lessons From Building in Crypto 17:02 Competition and Growing the Onchain Market 17:40 Why Fomo Uses Blockchain 18:03 What Users Are Trading 19:47 How Much Are Users Trading With? 20:40 Security and Risk 21:31 Bringing More Assets Onchain 22:00 The Next Generation of Investors 22:48 Will AI Change Social Trading? 23:43 Se’s Advice for Crypto Founders 🔔 New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 🌐 Follow Jacquelyn Melinek https://x.com/jacqmelinek?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelynmelinek ➡️  Follow Se Yong Park https://www.linkedin.com/in/se-yong-park-634782120 https://x.com/seyong #Fomo #SocialTrading #Crypto #OnchainFinance #Investing

What Could Take For Ethereum to Hit $10,000
33:21
October 13, 2026

What Could Take For Ethereum to Hit $10,000

In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Kevin Lepsoe, founder of ETHGas, to discuss how Ethereum could evolve into faster, more efficient financial infrastructure and what that could mean for institutions, DeFi and AI agents. Kevin Lepsoe breaks down ETHGas's vision for real-time Ethereum, why faster blockspace could bring liquidity back to the network, and the practical barriers institutions face when moving large amounts of capital onchain. They also discuss Ethereum's institutional comeback, why traditional credit relies on so many intermediaries, how smart contracts could reshape banking, and why AI agents may naturally gravitate toward DeFi as they begin transacting at machine speed. Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:24 Ethereum's Institutional Shift 03:21 What's Still Missing From DeFi 05:43 Building Real-Time Ethereum 06:15 Why Blockspace Matters 07:21 What If Ethereum Were 100x Faster? 09:02 ETH as Strategic Infrastructure 11:51 Is Ethereum Having a Comeback? 13:19 ETHGas as Ethereum's “Supercharger” 14:40 Kevin's $10,000K ETH Thesis 16:43 Ethereum Treasury Companies 18:09 What Ethereum Needs Next 18:41 Bringing Institutional Capital Onchain 20:26 Why Institutions Want to Move Onchain 21:50 Can DeFi Cut Out Banking Middlemen? 23:54 What Institutions Want From Ethereum 25:40 AI Meets Onchain Finance 25:53 Why AI Agents Could Choose DeFi 27:15 Building Through Ethereum's Market Cycles 28:31 Ethereum's Decentralization Advantage 29:46 Where Ethereum Could Be in One Year 🔔 New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 🌐 Follow Jacquelyn Melinek https://x.com/jacqmelinek?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelynmelinek ➡️  Follow Kevin Lepsoe https://x.com/lepsoe This episode is sponsored by Forgd, visit its Market Maker Leaderboard on Token Relations here: www.stratamedia.co/token-relations/leaderboard  Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com This episode is sponsored by Binance, the world’s number-one crypto exchange, trusted by over 300 million people. Discover more at: https://binance.onelink.me/y874/talkingtokens . NOTE: Binance is not available in certain countries, including the U.S.; check its Terms for more information: https://www.binance.com/en/terms  #Ethereum #ETHGas #DeFi #OnchainFinance #ETH

How Injective Is Building Financial Markets Onchain
44:38
October 8, 2026

How Injective Is Building Financial Markets Onchain

In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Eric Chen, co-founder and CEO of Injective Labs, the team behind the Injectivea blockchain built for financial applications, to discuss what comes next for tokenization, onchain finance and institutional adoption. Eric explains why simply tokenizing assets isn't enough, where he sees the biggest opportunities for bringing financial markets onchain, and how Injective is building infrastructure for advanced financial products. They also discuss RWA perpetual markets, tokenized stocks, capital formation, institutional adoption, AI agents and the future of blockchain & powered financial infrastructure. Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:58 How Eric Chen Started Injective 03:07 Should Founders Still Drop Out of College? 05:27 Why AI Reminds Eric of Early Crypto 07:24 The Security Problem AI Can't Solve 09:27 Injective's Vision for Onchain Finance 11:21 Why Tokenization Is Accelerating 12:31 What Injective's Transfer Agent Registration Enables 14:32 $215M in RWA Perpetual Volume 16:33 Are Perpetual Markets the Future of RWAs? 17:52 Why Tokenizing Assets Isn't Enough 20:16 What's Moving Onchain Faster Than Expected 21:45 What Institutions Are Building on Injective 24:25 What Makes an Asset Useful Onchain? 27:21 Will Onchain Finance Compete With Banks? 27:52 Why Institutional Tokenization Is Accelerating 29:08 What Should Actually Move Onchain? 31:14 What Enterprises Want From Blockchain 33:48 Will Blockchain Become Invisible Infrastructure? 35:37 What Onchain Finance Could Look Like in 5–10 Years 37:26 What Injective Got Wrong 38:29 What Eric Is Watching Next 39:00 AI Agents Move From Analysis to Execution (timestamp needs verification) 41:27 What Eric Won't Trust AI With 41:40 Eric's Advice for Builders Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com  This episode is sponsored by Forgd, visit its Market Maker Leaderboard on Token Relations here: www.stratamedia.co/token-relations/leaderboard  New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 Follow Jacquelyn  Jacquelyn on X: /jacqmelinek  Talking Tokens on X: /_talkingtokens  Talking Tokens on Instagram: /_talkingtokens  Follow Eric Chen https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-chen-b12255421 https://x.com/ericinjective?lang=en

Why Banks Risk More by Ignoring Stablecoins
45:03
October 6, 2026

Why Banks Risk More by Ignoring Stablecoins

In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Sergio Mello, Global Head of Digital Asset Infrastructure, and Kevin Wysocki, Head of Policy at Anchorage Digital, to discuss why stablecoins are moving deeper into the institutional financial system and what banks need to build for the next phase of adoption. They explore why institutions are shifting from asking if they should participate to how and when, whether stablecoins could become a global settlement layer, why every bank could eventually become a digital asset bank, and how tokenization, stablecoins, and AI banking could converge into a fundamentally different financial system. Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:34 What Changed for Institutional Crypto? 02:34 Why Banks Need to Start Building Now 05:16 The Second Era of Stablecoins 07:42 The Risk of Ignoring Stablecoins 08:56 TradFi and Crypto Are Converging 10:02 Stablecoins vs. Tokenization 13:02 The Trillion-Dollar Tokenized Money Opportunity 13:38 What GENIUS Could Unlock for Banks 16:10 Stablecoins and Dollar Dominance 18:28 Could Other Currencies Move Onchain? 20:06 When Stablecoins Become Normal Financial Infrastructure 21:37 Are Stablecoins Inevitable? 23:13 Anchorage Digital's Role in Stablecoin Infrastructure 26:57 Will Every Bank Become a Digital Asset Bank? 30:29 Why “Tomorrow Is Late” 30:59 What's Slowing Institutional Adoption? 34:07 When Stablecoins Become Invisible 35:45 Stablecoins Meet AI Banking 36:45 What Happens When Everything Connects? 38:17 What Comes Next for Crypto Regulation? 39:59 The Invisible Future of Onchain Finance Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com This episode is sponsored by Binance, the world’s number-one crypto exchange, trusted by over 300 million people. Discover more at: https://binance.onelink.me/y874/talkingtokens . NOTE: Binance is not available in certain countries, including the U.S.; check its Terms for more information: https://www.binance.com/en/terms   New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141  Follow Jacquelyn Melinek https://x.com/jacqmelinek?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelynmelinek  Follow Sergio & Kevin  https://x.com/sergiofly?lang=en https://x.com/KevWysocki #Stablecoins #AnchorageDigital #Tokenization #DigitalAssets #TalkingTokens

Talking Tokens | Inside the Future of Onchain Finance
1:32
October 5, 2026

Talking Tokens | Inside the Future of Onchain Finance

Talking Tokens goes beyond the headlines to explore the people, ideas, and infrastructure shaping the onchain economy. Hosted by Jacquelyn Melinek, founder and CEO of StrataMedia and former senior crypto reporter at TechCrunch, Talking Tokens brings you twice-weekly conversations with founders, investors, market makers, institutional leaders, and experts across digital assets and traditional finance. From crypto and DeFi to stablecoins, tokenization, institutional adoption, and the convergence of TradFi and onchain finance, we break down where money is moving, what’s gaining real traction, what’s mostly hype, and what could reshape the future of finance.  New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 Follow Jacquelyn Melinek https://x.com/jacqmelinek?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelynmelinek #TalkingTokens #OnchainFinance #Crypto #DigitalAssets #DeFi

What Actually Makes a Crypto Token Investable?
49:12
October 1, 2026

What Actually Makes a Crypto Token Investable?

In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Shane Molidor, founder and CEO of Forgd, and Ryan Celaj, head of research at DeFiLlama, to discuss how better data and transparency could change the way crypto assets are evaluated. They break down the Universal Token Ratings (UTR), why TVL and volume alone don't tell the full story, and how disclosures, liquidity, market structure and market maker performance can provide more context around a token. They also explore what institutional investors expect from crypto projects, why ratings need to evolve in real time, and whether better transparency could create a new standard for the industry. Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:26 Why Crypto Needed a Market Maker Leaderboard 02:04 Bringing Forgd Data to DeFiLlama 03:51 What Makes a Good Market Maker? 05:25 Why Market Makers Overpromise 07:37 How Market Makers Perform Across Market Cycles 11:58 Building More Transparency Into Crypto 13:23 Introducing Universal Token Ratings 14:22 Are TVL and Volume Enough? 17:37 Building a “Moody’s for Crypto” 20:58 Performance vs. Transparency 23:29 Is Crypto Returning to Fundamentals? 25:33 Why Token Ratings Need to Change in Real Time 28:23 What Happens When Projects Don’t Disclose Enough? 31:12 What Makes a Crypto Asset Investable? 33:17 How Investors Can Use UTR 35:28 Could Ratings Change How Token Projects Behave? 37:09 What UTR Means for Institutional Investors 39:12 What Institutions Expect From Crypto Projects 41:40 Expanding Beyond 170 Rated Tokens 43:06 Could UTR Become a New Crypto Standard? 44:55 Can Token Ratings Reveal Alpha?  New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141  Follow Jacquelyn Melinek https://x.com/jacqmelinek?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelynmelinek  Follow Shane & Ryan https://x.com/MolidorShane?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-celaj This episode is sponsored by Forgd, visit its Market Maker Leaderboard on Token Relations here: www.stratamedia.co/token-relations/leaderboard  Check out the Universal Token Rating platform on DeFiLlama: https://defillama.com/universal-token-rating  Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com This episode is sponsored by Binance, the world’s number-one crypto exchange, trusted by over 300 million people. Discover more at: https://binance.onelink.me/y874/talkingtokens . NOTE: Binance is not available in certain countries, including the U.S.; check its Terms for more information: https://www.binance.com/en/terms  #DeFiLlama #Crypto #TokenRatings #CryptoResearch #TalkingTokens

Why Grove Is Betting Billions on Onchain Credit | Kevin Chan
35:18
September 29, 2026

Why Grove Is Betting Billions on Onchain Credit | Kevin Chan

In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Kevin Chan, co-founder and CTO of Grove Labs, the team behind Grove Protocol, to discuss how Grove is building infrastructure for institutional credit and modern capital markets. Kevin breaks down how Grove has scaled its credit platform, how the protocol connects stablecoin liquidity with traditional and emerging forms of credit, and what it will take to bring significantly more institutional capital onchain. They also discuss Grove's work across the Sky ecosystem, relationships with institutions such as BlackRock, the role of Morpho and Coinbase in expanding access to borrowing, and why new credit markets like AI compute financing could become a major opportunity. Timestamps  00:00 Intro 01:32 Why Grove Was Built 03:30 What Financial Institutions Actually Want 05:29 How Grove Grew From $50M to $2.5B 06:55 The Sky Ecosystem Flywheel 08:10 The Opportunity in Onchain Credit 10:08 How Credit Markets Could Change 11:57 Why Credit Adoption Takes Time 12:21 Building Trust Through Transparency 14:16 What It Takes to Bring Trillions in Credit Onchain 17:01 Where Blockchain Can Expand Access to Credit 20:25 Bringing Onchain Credit to Retail 22:26 Making Credit More Accessible 24:38 Why AI Compute Financing Could Be Next 27:07 What Will Bring Institutions Onchain 28:39 Will Onchain Credit Compete With Banks? 30:36 What Will Separate the Winning Credit Protocols 33:05 Kevin's Advice for Builders This episode is sponsored by Forgd, visit its Market Maker Leaderboard on Token Relations here: www.stratamedia.co/token-relations/leaderboard  Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com   New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141  Follow Jacquelyn Melinek https://x.com/jacqmelinek?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacquelynmelinek https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/talking-tokens-crypto-onchain-finance-investing/id1743669141 https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ Follow Kevin Chan https://x.com/kevinlichan https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinchan1207

What Happens When the World’s Assets Move Onchain?
25:35
September 24, 2026

What Happens When the World’s Assets Move Onchain?

In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Gregg Bell, Chief Investment Officer at Hashgraph, to discuss what institutional blockchain adoption of Hedera actually looks like and why some of the most important enterprise use cases may be happening outside the crypto headlines. Gregg breaks down how Hedera is being used across industries, why tokenization extends far beyond stocks and securities, and how moving assets onchain can unlock greater mobility, programmability and new forms of collateral. They explore real-world assets, enterprise adoption, supply chains, tokenized real estate, digital identity, interoperability and the infrastructure required to support global financial markets.  Also explains why institutional adoption takes longer than retail adoption, how regulatory clarity is changing the risk calculus for enterprises, the role of HBAR within the Hedera ecosystem, and why actual network usage not hype is ultimately the measure of success. Timestamps: 00:10 Gregg Bell's journey into crypto 01:06 From Bitcoin lending to onchain assets 01:53 How blockchain's user base is changing 03:06 How enterprises and governments use blockchain 04:58 Tokenizing assets beyond securities 06:28 When will more assets move onchain? 08:01 What institutional adoption actually looks like 10:19 Enterprise blockchain happening behind the scenes 12:57 Why the first wave of enterprise adoption struggled 16:09 Public, private and hybrid blockchain infrastructure 17:49 Are institutions finally comfortable with blockchain? 18:56 The role of HBAR in Hedera's ecosystem 21:11 What financial-grade blockchain infrastructure requires 23:05 Who captures the value from tokenization? 23:47 Are we entering a new era of financial access? 24:28 What success looks like for Hedera This episode is sponsored by Forgd, visit its Market Maker Leaderboard on Token Relations here: www.stratamedia.co/token-relations/leaderboard  Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com   New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141  Follow us  Jacquelyn on X: /jacqmelinek  Talking Tokens on X: /_talkingtokens  Talking Tokens on Instagram: /_talkingtokens  Follow Gregg Bell https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregg-bell-38b5389

Why Stellar Thinks Its $4B Tokenization Milestone Is Just the Beginning
30:55
September 22, 2026

Why Stellar Thinks Its $4B Tokenization Milestone Is Just the Beginning

In today's episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Raja Chakravorti, Chief Business Officer at the Stellar Development Foundation, to discuss why the next phase of tokenization is about more than simply bringing assets onchain and how Stellar is building infrastructure for a more connected global financial system. Raja breaks down Stellar's growth from roughly $1 billion to $4 billion in tokenized real-world assets since January, why capital efficiency is one of blockchain's biggest potential unlocks, and what needs to happen after an asset is tokenized for it to become genuinely useful. They discuss Stellar's work with DTCC, Franklin Templeton, WisdomTree and MoneyGram, the arrival of Tether's USD₮0 on Stellar, and why stablecoins have found product-market fit for global money movement. Raja also explains why distribution and circulation could define the next wave of tokenization, how financial institutions are moving assets onchain, and why better access to financial services remains central to Stellar's mission. Timestamps 00:00 Raja Chakravorti's journey from banking to blockchain 05:17 Why access to financial services matters 08:04 What working at PayPal and Plaid taught Raja about financial infrastructure 10:31 The promise of moving financial assets onchain 11:23 What blockchain can solve for financial markets 13:19 Stellar crossing $4B in tokenized real-world assets 16:43 How big can tokenization get? 18:04 Should everything be tokenized? 18:49 Why DTCC is bringing assets to Stellar 21:54 Why financial institutions are choosing Stellar 24:32 Tether and USD₮0 come to Stellar 25:57 Why stablecoins matter for Stellar 27:49 The next frontier for tokenization 30:14 Building global financial access 32:30 What success looks like for Stellar  New episodes every week  https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 Follow us  Jacquelyn on X: /jacqmelinek  Talking Tokens on X: /_talkingtokens  Talking Tokens on Instagram: /_talkingtokens  Follow Raja Chakravorti https://x.com/rajachak75 https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajachakravorti Today’s episode is sponsored by Anchorage Digital, America's first federally chartered digital asset bank and provider of regulated stablecoin issuance. To find out more, visit anchorage.com

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