Inversion's Vision for Real-World Crypto w/ Santiago Roel Santos
In this episode, Austin chats with Santiago Roel Santos, founder of Inversion, discussing why crypto has struggled to reach mainstream adoption and what it will take to change that. Santiago explains how Inversion applies a private-equity-style model to deploy capital into real-world use cases, rather than chasing speculative cycles. He outlines why stablecoins are emerging as crypto’s strongest product-market fit, what infrastructure still needs to mature, and how regulatory clarity is shaping global distribution. The conversation also covers chain selection, the limits of “casino onboarding,” and why genuine adoption depends on building products that solve practical problems for people and businesses. 00:00 - Understanding Inversion and Its Origins 07:18 - Crypto's Consumer to Enterprise Shift 12:59 - Interoperability and Choosing the Right Blockchain 17:16 - Private Equity in a High Interest Rate Environment 20:16 - Distribution vs. Product in Crypto 25:50 - The Future of Crypto and Stablecoins 33:19 - Global Economic Power and Technology 35:51 - Crypto's Impact on Corporate Structures 40:32 - Tokenized Stocks and Market Access 48:02 - Advice for Founders in the Crypto Space
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